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#1 MarkM

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 11:42 PM


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Hi everyone
I'm new to this site, and am reading SDP to become a better photographer. I'm a newbie!
Wanted to post a picture I took while on vacation in Horta, Faial (Azore Islands).
Am interested in critiques and suggestions!
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Photo: S mode. 1/5, f 2.8, ISO 3200

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 02:36 AM

Hello Mark, and welcome.

(Given the nautical nature of your photo, I suppose I should include the word "matey", and possibly "aaargh"). ;)

 

Moving on, that's a very nice photo.

I like the reflection of the pier light on the water just right of centre.

The detail on the boats' sterns is nice and sharp.

I think I want to go there !



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Posted 22 June 2016 - 04:54 AM

Welcome to the forum Mark!  There are a lot of great people here that are very talented and helpful.  I am not so experienced at this either, and this forum has been a lot of help.   


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Posted 22 June 2016 - 07:32 AM

Welcome Mark. I really like your shot. The first thing I would do is level it. The next would normally be to try and bring down the two blown out lights on the right. I don't really find them too distracting but I would spend a little time and see what looks best. I would also spend time on the sky. There is cloud cover detail there that you could bring out using a neutral density filter and with an adjustment brush in LR. 



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Posted 22 June 2016 - 08:13 AM

Thanks for the feedback, everyone! I'm excited to learn more.
Question: I don't have Lightroom yet, but can I make those adjustments to the clouds and blown out lights even though it isn't RAW format (it is JPEG).
Thanks again!

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 08:21 AM

What editing software are you using? Also you really do want to shoot in RAW because it gives you so much more information to work with when you edit.



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Posted 22 June 2016 - 02:44 PM

John
I don't have any editing software (yet) other than the generic photo editing capability from Microsoft.

I have SnapSeed on iPhone which "edits" JPEG files on my phone but that isn't the same I know!

Will need to pick one, either Adobe or Lightroom. Which do you think is best for a "beginner"?

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 04:09 PM

Welcome to our photography forum Mark. Light room is a good place to start editing. Tony has a book on it, and there are online tutorials that come along with it. There are also other software available, but lr is used commonly here.
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Posted 22 June 2016 - 07:03 PM

Mark Adobe makes Lightroom. It costs $9.99 a month for the basic LR and Photoshop subscription. You can find online discounts if you purchase a yearly subscription in one payment. $90.00+-. You can try other software but if you get really interested you will probably end up with Lightroom. Elements is Lightroom light and you don't need a subscription but I have used both and prefer LR. 



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Posted 22 June 2016 - 10:38 PM

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 01:17 AM

Welcome to the forums,

a great night shot.

John already got what would have been my main comments about leveling and the 2 bright lights that seem to draw all the attention.

 

Yes I suspect most here are using either the Adobe photographers bundle (Lightroom cc and Photoshop cc) that was mentioned or older versions of them.

http://www.adobe.com...hotography.html

 

There is also the free GIMP Gnu Image manipulation Program, I know very little about it.

https://www.gimp.org/


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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:48 AM

Hi Mark,

Glad that you figured out how to get your photo up and posted.  I don't have much to add to the great feedback you already got.  I really want to encourage you to shoot raw and get into Lightroom or some other post production app.  You'll be amazed how knowing what you can do after you've taken the shot will affect the shots you take.  I came back to photography very recently after more than 40 years.  The digital world gives us incredible opportunities to capture images that I could never have even imagined back in the day of film.  Lightroom, Efex Pro, Photoshop and a host of other options opens up the digital world even further.  I've found taking things a step at a time has helped me get back into photography without becoming overwhelmed.  If you decide to get Lightroom (which you can either buy outright or pay for by subscription) there are a number of excellent tutorials that can guide you through the learning.  In addition to Tony and Chelsea's book, Anthony Morganti has an extensive multipart video series  https://www.youtube....XXKEMQmjseqic1J   (it's free,) Lynda.com also has a terrific training series by Chris Orwig as well as Julieanne Kost's excellent series of tutorials offered free by Adobe -  http://www.jkost.com/lightroom.html           Looking forward to seeing more of your work.



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Posted 24 June 2016 - 01:14 AM

I do like your pic a lot.

 

Did you select the settings yourself or was the camera in some sort of semi-auto mode...? Sorry do not know what Photo S mode is...! If manually adjusted, you did well given the variation of light across the scene in that the bright lights did not steal too much detail from other aspects of the pic, while the shading caused by the clouds/weather in the sky has retained enough detail to give a sense of reality and being there..

 

Yup the digital age has greatly improved photography and if one ads the capability of software to modify pics out of the camera, then you can be VERY creative in it`s use or choose to use it`s capability to recover incorrectly exposed pics to look  more as the scene was naturally.

 

One of the aspects I really enjoyed when I first discovered photo software was the ability to recover old incorrectly exposed or damaged pics all of which can be done in basic software such as Adobe Photoshop Elements though describing it as "basic" is a relative term to the industry standards.

 

Welcome to the group and I look forward to seeing more of your pics and sharing a bit of your journey into further into photographic enjoyment and understanding..(-:

 

I am NO expert, but I know what I like...(-:  



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Posted 24 June 2016 - 08:26 AM

Thanks again everyone for the feedback, encouragement and advice. I'm looking forward to the journey, including the Journey to RAW!

I shot this in Shutter priority mode ("S"), not Manual. I wanted to try out some night shots for the first time. I was really just fooling around and was stunned by all the blue colors that showed up on the display from the first picture! The night was fairly dark but there were plenty of lights all around including some street or building lights behind me. I wonder if most water shots at night have this blue effect?

So, this was more luck and a happy "accident" than something planned. But I'm glad for the accident. It inspires me, and it led me here and you all!
Thanks for all the great suggestions.

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 12:04 PM

That's a great question Mark.

Its something I previously noticed but hadn't bothered to investigate.

 

Apparently, its called The Blue Hour and occurs at dawn and dusk and is not limited to watery areas.

I googled it and there's a wikipedia entry for it.

All to do with how light from the blue end of the visible spectrum is defused by the atmorphere. B)






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