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Posted 07 February 2016 - 03:32 PM

Why are there no reviews or books on Corel photo editing software, Adobe is not the only company out there making good photo editing software, they just spent the most money marketing it, is this a good reason not to review other software.

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Posted 07 February 2016 - 09:58 PM

Check out Lynda.com, they have loads of tutorials on pretty much every software.

 

FWIW, Adobe gets the most attention because Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign basically own the design space. Flash is used extensively in apps, animation and web. And Premiere is a very popular video platform especially on the smaller scale. They get attention because it's what most people use. Corel makes good stuff but they don't have a comparable user base.



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Posted 08 February 2016 - 06:48 AM

1) We are not reviewers, we don't do reviews.
2) PhotoShop is far from marketing domination.

It is by far the best and most capable software in the category. Along with LightRoom they are the most commonly used software by photographers, it is pretty reasonable to find more guides & stuff about it than any other software with much lower market share.



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Posted 08 February 2016 - 10:21 PM

Corel f#%ks up everything they touch, including my used to be fave 3d program Bryce.

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Posted 10 February 2016 - 01:35 PM

Thank you for for the feedback, the unbiased opinions of pro's of the products they actually buy not are given to use mean a lot more than a review in a magazine that was paid to write it and got everything for free who on the next page are adds.

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Posted 10 February 2016 - 10:00 PM

By the way options needed, colourful language not needed.

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Posted 10 February 2016 - 10:08 PM

Thank you for for the feedback, the unbiased opinions of pro's of the products they actually buy not are given to use mean a lot more than a review in a magazine that was paid to write it and got everything for free who on the next page are adds.

 

Here's where you are wrong.

Both persons can be biased.

For different, or not reasons.

 

What you are doing, is, wrongfully labeling every reviewer who gets free hardware/software as biased.

I've been in the industry and the reviews industry more than you probably had internet access, and I've never hidden any flaw or changed my review because of bias from getting free stuff or by manufacturer's request.

Some do it, some don't.

 

Before you "warn" others for "colorful language" make sure you don't do the same.

 

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Posted 10 February 2016 - 11:54 PM

:) <---colourful smiley

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Posted 12 February 2016 - 10:12 PM

Talk to designers about what they think of Adobe. Adobe is popular because it works and it's what the industry overwhelmingly uses, not because people particularly like Adobe.



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Posted 14 February 2016 - 01:47 PM

There are a lot of old timers like myself who remember that about 15 years ago (maybe longer), PaintShop Pro (PSP) version 9 (now at version X8 = 18) was written by a company named JASC. It was a longtime favorite "shareware" program costing about $60 that had about "90% of the functionality of Adobe Photoshop, at 10% of the price," as people used to say. This was before Photoshop Elements existed (and long before Lightroom, of course).

Then Adobe started selling Elements, or actually giving it away (with scanners, printers, etc - they still do it), and put JASC out of business. JASC also shot itself in the foot by doing a complete rewrite in version 8, which was very poorly implemented. Version 9 was their attempt to fix the problems with 8 and was their comeback, till Adobe did them in.

So Corel bought them out and has owned PSP since then. I disagree with others who say that Corel always screws up products that they buy up. They sometimes do, IMHO, but in the case of PSP they have made timely and meaningful upgrades and it is still essentially 90% of the functionality of Photoshop at 10% of the price, and certainly better than Elements, IMHO. I think that Corel AfterShot Pro 2 (formerly Bibble) is also good, although they have only taken it over fairly recently, I think.

Why no reviews? Well, there are some, but everyone drinks the Adobe Koolaid, and especially the Lightroom Koolaid. In the YouTube world, people like Tony and Chelsea have to hitch themselves to the most popular and most-used software, for obvious reasons (more viewers, etc). I bemoan it, but I understand why they do it. But there's no law that says you have to follow anyone in lock-step conformity. You CAN find reviews for all the alternate image editors, and I urge people to do it (for example, there is a YouTube review comparing Aftershot Pro 2 to Lightroom, essentially saying both are about equal).
 


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Posted 14 February 2016 - 08:40 PM

My first editing program was GIMP on a Redhat 6.02 Linux box. :)

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 10:27 PM

In reply to RAH1861. I started this because my wife has always used Corel PaintShop and more recently Corel AfterShot as they boxed them together. On the other hand I have mostly been a user of Adobe Photoshop and I have not found many people reviewing Corel software. We have a PC and a MacBook Pro, at this time Corel is not available for Mac but I know that the next release is supposed to be Mac compatibl and well Apple's Photo's software leaves a lot to be desired, to be honest it's kinda a waist of time and space. So I am trying to decide whether to wait for the newest Corel as it will work on my Mac too or get the Adobe.



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 06:57 AM

Adobe.

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 06:59 AM

Me, I would go with Corel because of the price (and also because I have used PaintShop Pro for well over 15 years). I suppose if money were no object, I'd get Adobe (Lightroom and Photoshop; NOT Elements).


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Posted 28 February 2016 - 01:16 AM

Thank you for the honest opinions, you all have given me a lot of food for thought.

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Posted 12 March 2016 - 03:04 PM

Actually, there are reviews, books, and video (DVD) tutorials for Corel's PainShop Pro and AfterShot Pro software. Just check Google and Amazon.com.

 

For reviews, see TopTenReviews. PaintShop Pro is rated number 1, ahead of Adobe's Photoshop Elements and eight other photo editing software.

 

Amazon.com lists three books (both print and Kindle versions) for PaintShop Pro and one for AfterShot Pro. One of those three books has its own web site - http://gopaintshoppro.co.uk/

 

There are also the user guides for both PaintShop Pro and AfterShot Pro you can download (as pdf) from the respective product web pages at Corel's site. There is also a user guide for Perfectly Clear for PaintShop Pro (again, in pdf format) from the Athentech.com web site. The same site also offers webinars.

 

As for video tutorials, Corel's Discovery Center has a page listing of video tutorials for both PaintShop Pro and AfterShot Pro at http://learn.corel.c...courses/welcome

 

Amazon.com also sells an old version of a PaintShop Pro course from Lynda.com in DVD format, along with "PaintShop Pro X7 Tricks & Basics Made Easy Video Course" from Mark Elmo Ellis.

 

Finally, you will find several Corel PaintShop Pro courses at udemy.com, for example "Photo Re-Touching and Post Production with PaintShop Pro"

 

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