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#1 maevec99

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 01:39 PM

Hello there! I am interested in investing in a good editing program. I'm a beginner, but I'm willing to put time into learning. I've had Adobe Photopshop CC suggested to me and Photoshop lightroom. Does anyone else have any suggestions, or information? I'd like something that i can do regular editing on, and work up to advanced things such as levitation photos (etc.) I honestly have no background knowledge on this, and what a program like this may cost. Thanks! 



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Posted 04 November 2015 - 05:55 PM

Lightroom and photoshop are available for $ 9.99 per month. I use an earlier version of lightroom that I purchased in February, it is good for adjusting the exposure, cropping, noise reduction, and many other features. Good luck with your selection.
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#3 K_Georgiadis

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 11:19 PM

I would recommend Photoshop+Lightroom CC 2015 at $9.99/month IF you want to have access to all of the advanced editing options. As Paul said, Lightroom can handle many of the editing tasks, plus it is a powerful image organizer.

There are things that only Photoshop can do and, even though it is a massive program that can accomplish the same task in a number of different ways, there are hundreds of very specific tutorials on the internet. The typical workflow of professional photographers is to first do the basic editing in Lightroom and then continue in Photoshop. In the CC suite the two programs are linked and the photos can be moved back and forth quite seamlessly.

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Posted 05 November 2015 - 02:13 AM

I don't recommend people buy older copies of Lightroom. Not because they won't work fine but because you're locking yourself into an antiquated software package. There is no guarantee it will work at all going forward and it could break at any moment simply as a result of a Windows update. If that happens you're out of luck. Now, if that happens 3+ years down the road with the way pricing on Creative Cloud works you come out ahead but if it happens at any point before that you've lost money. And in the mean time you're running a worse copy of the software package.

 

With Creative Suite vs. Creative Cloud it made sense to buy software because between how often they released major revisions and the up-front costs plus upgrade costs meant that purchasing the software outright was always going to be cheaper. The problem is you don't have the option now.

 

Plus there's the point of the option really is just have Lightroom for 2.5–3 years or have Lightroom and Photoshop for the same price for that time. Sure, you might not need Photoshop but we find ways to use the things we have when we want to.



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Posted 10 November 2015 - 08:37 AM

Theres a programme called Cyberlimk PhotoDirector. They have a website.

I had ver.4 for a while - was free on a photo magazine DVD. Theyre up to ver.7 and there seems to be three functionality levels: Delux, Ultra and Suite €55 - €140

http://www.cyberlink...pare_en_EU.html

 

Just noticed that this link is Europe focused but there will be an American pointing site if you require.

 

I found it quite good but in the end I felt that if I was going to learn photo editing software it might as well be the Adobe stuff.

 

I'd say that There would still be a learning curve to climb with Photodirector -  they all do much the same things, some better that others, but each package would have it's own commands.

 

And then there's Photoshop Elements which costs around the sdame as PhotoDirector.

 

This is probably not helping... :(

 

Good luck

 

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 07:31 AM

With both LightRoom & PhotoShop CC latest versions coming in at $9/month, there is no alternative worth mentioning when it comes to post-processing if you ask me.

Between the two, I would suggest/learn PhotoShop.

Going for LightRoom only limits your creativity, options and methods to do things.



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Posted 18 November 2015 - 05:10 PM

I was using LightRoom & PhotoShop CS5 until I bought a D7100 and they didn't update the RAW converter... you had to buy the next newest package. I had just bought it too. Pain... I don't need new features etc I just need it to work with my files, oh and Adobe support is terrible, they kept telling me an update would come out soon. It never did. As I'm an amature, though not shy spending money, I've just ordered Corel PaintShop Pro X8 Ultimate. I tend to keep software until I upgrade my computer about every four years... so that'd be 4x12x10=$480 for Adobe or $49 for Corel PaintShop Pro X8 Ultimate (on sale right now on the Corel Website).

I pay out too many monthly fees, cable, internet, cell phones etc now-a-days, I'm sick of it.


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Posted 18 November 2015 - 11:58 PM

Yup, hate the idea of renting anything, let alone software!
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Posted 19 November 2015 - 10:06 PM

Yup, hate the idea of renting anything, let alone software!

 

These days most software is rented unless it's an open-source or free license. When you pay for a license outright if you look through the terms of service you'll often find lines about how you don't technically own the product and they're just leasing it to you for an indeterminate amount of time at the agreed rate (price).

 

The one thing that's nice about the subscription model is it means a company has a very steady source of income. From a business perspective you can take more risks if you know you're pretty much guaranteed X/month every month. For Adobe the old way meant that people would buy packages or bulk orders but only every couple of years. It puts them in a more precarious pace and makes operational budgets tighter.

 

The interesting thing that Adobe has started doing is re-writing a lot of the base code for it's apps. Which it's needed to do for a really, really long time... One result of this is they're trying to drop Save for Web from Photoshop, a really useful took web designers and developers use as a first step for exporting images.



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Posted 20 November 2015 - 06:45 AM

The subscription model from Adobe is certainly worthwhile.
Unless you thought spending 2k$ for an older version ( CS6 Extended ) and not getting any updates to newer versions of the program is a better choice than 9$/mo



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Posted 20 November 2015 - 06:06 PM

BTW, found the following link sometime ago (it is from Adobe) which will drop price for LR+PS to 7.99 a month for the year rather than 9.99 a month. In case someone is insterested...

https://creative.ado...X&mv=email&PID=2159997


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Posted 20 November 2015 - 07:05 PM

BTW, found the following link sometime ago (it is from Adobe) which will drop price for LR+PS to 7.99 a month for the year rather than 9.99 a month. In case someone is insterested...
https://creative.ado...X&mv=email&PID=2159997


Well that's a lot better than going up $ 2.00 dollars a month!
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Posted 20 November 2015 - 07:44 PM

Seems like only for a year though, but $24 savings...



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Posted 24 November 2015 - 10:30 PM

Lol when one spends 25k on camera equipment I don't think 24 bucks a year is really a deal breaker.

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 10:38 PM

Lol when one spends 25k on camera equipment I don't think 24 bucks a year is really a deal breaker.

 

Agreed. C1 is starting to catch my interest but it's same thing. I don't see the point in dropping thousands of dollars in computer equipment and then skimping out on the software end of the stack.



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Posted 24 November 2015 - 10:56 PM

Agreed. C1 is starting to catch my interest but it's same thing. I don't see the point in dropping thousands of dollars in computer equipment and then skimping out on the software end of the stack.


Makes sense to me, about ready to upgrade my computer, C1 would be a welcome addition.
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Posted 25 November 2015 - 01:14 PM

Personally use C1. Honestly, this particular model from Adobe is for PS, they trying to add "free" Lr the same way MS tries to convince us to use IE. But in case I'd need to upgrade my Photoshop (currently CS6) would use the link myself. Savings are still savings no matter how much you'd spent on equipment. Couple of good quality sandwiches - why not? Other thing, is that I'm absolutely happy with CS6...
Quick note to P Bender, C1 is much better with computer resource usage then LR6. If left unattended and opened LR6 guaranteed will use most of the resources of my PC. C1 left open for days, no problem. And my PC will be 8 yrs old soon




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