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#1 zguy

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Posted 19 September 2015 - 08:21 AM

I hope that I am in the right section for this.  I have a Sony A6000 but I think my dilemna or issues aren't specific to the manufacturer per say.  I think they are related to being a new photographer and getting hung up on getting better gear or the all important sharpness that you just can't seem to get with kit lenses.

 

I have been shooting with 16-50mm and 70-210mm kit lenses since I bought the camera last year.  I find that I am shooting a lot of wide angle shots in the 16-24mm range plus some shots in the telephoto range.  I also occasionally shoot portraits, although its vary rare, I use the telephoto zoom for that since it is very pleasing on the face.

 

I would like to get some better quality lenses.  I picked up the 10-18mm by Sony for wide angle and I also picked up a Zeiss Touit 32mm (F1.8) as well.  I really like the sharpness from the primes but I really appreciate the flexibility of zoom lenses.  I am thinking about returning the Zeiss Touit and getting the Sony Zeiss 16-70mm to replace both my 16-50mm kit lens and the Zeiss Touit.  The 32mm is nice but it is just one focal length and I am not sure how much I would use it.  I did use it for a portrait the other day and it came out amazing.

 

Now even after all of that, I start thinking that I broke my rule, which is not to buy and lenses that can't be used with a Sony full frame in the future.   I think Tony says to buy crop sensor lenses for now and then sell the them when you actually go full frame instead of using full frame on a crop body.

 

Do I return the Zeiss Touit and the 10-18mm and just stay content with the kit lenses?  Or is it justified to replace my current kit lens with the Sony Ziess 16-70mm?  This way I would have a better quality zoom (I hope) and the 10-18mm wide angle and just stay put for a while.  I think I would get a lot of use out of the both the 10-18mm and the 16-70mm.  I would just keep the 70-210 kit zoom for telephoto.

 

Am I the only newbie photographer overthinking everything??  Any advice would be great?

 



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Posted 19 September 2015 - 01:55 PM

Take a breath Zguy.... Learn how to use what you have now and then upgrade. In my experience spending money on kit doesn't make you a better photographer...... It makes you a guy with lots of gear!!!

I got lost reading you post and gave up half way through, reading between the lines you a very new to photography and have got it in your head you have to buy better lenses and shoot full frame to do photography properly... ??? Learn to take photos before you spend your dosh IMHO.

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Posted 19 September 2015 - 06:23 PM

Yup at this stage of the game just go out and take pictures, Lear your camera inside and out and proper technique.

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 01:29 AM

I agree with the others. If you are unsure between getting one focal length over the other, and they are vastly different in fov, then you are better off holding off on a purchase.

As for buying crop lenses for crop cameras and ff lenses for ff cameras, that is a good idea since ff lenses might be too tight on a crop sensor.

Like a 24-70 on a crop sensor just isn't the same.. And honestly I don't know if I'd use that fl as a walk around on crop sensor

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 06:38 AM

The kit lens that comes with the A6000 gets very poor reviews, so I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to replace that. So the Sony 16-70 sounds like it would be good for that. The 10-18 is a nice choice for an ultra-wide, and keep the 70-210 for telephoto. I do think you should return the Zeiss 32mm for reasons you mentioned.

I agree with a lot of what others have said - you seem to be going equipment crazy somewhat. There is a term for this which has been mentioned on this forum before: GAS - Gear Acquisition Syndrome. You need to fight against this. If you are a newbie or even kind of a newbie, why are you even thinking about full-frame at this point? Because you have GAS! Stop!
 


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Posted 20 September 2015 - 07:32 PM

Take another twenty to fifty thousand shots, learn your equipment inside out, then choose what will improve your pictures.


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Posted 20 September 2015 - 07:37 PM

Lol gas affects everyone! I've only been shooting for a year and a half and look at the collection of stuff I have amassed :(

Truth is, I haven't had time to really use all my gear.

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 11:34 PM

Thanks for all of the opinions.  It's very easy to get out of control with buying more gear.  I really like the Gear Acquisition Syndrome (GAS).  I am going to stay put with the two additional lenses and return the Zeiss 32mm for now.



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 08:52 AM

That's good! :) I should have mentioned that I suffer from GAS bigtime myself. It is very easy to get caught up in it. I have myself under control as far as cameras, and usually lenses. But I do admit to a weakness for tripods! I can't stop!! ;)


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Posted 21 September 2015 - 01:45 PM

my weakness is in portability of camera bodies/lenses.  I'm still waiting for a 16-600 f2.8 budget lens thats light weight, portable, sharp and has fast AF. When that comes out, i'll be ready to sell all my gear to get the camera/lens combo.

 

until then, i'll have to compromise with my current gear.



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 05:05 PM

16-600 2.8? The price on those will really drop once the 12-800 1.8 is announced.

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 12:56 AM

Might be worth waiting for the IS version..

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 07:04 AM

AMAZING bokeh on the 10-800, f1.4! (You need the 10mm on a crop body!) Worth the wait!


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