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#1 jfalgout

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Posted 30 June 2015 - 08:47 AM

Hi all, I'm new to the group.  I would like to ask if any of you have a preference between Photomatix and the combo of Lightroom and Photoshop? Tony uses Photomatix in his book, and I do like the results that he showed.  Can PS achieve the same type of results?  Thanks, Jim



#2 David Pavlich

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Posted 30 June 2015 - 09:14 AM

Photomatix is pretty tough to beat.  I have the Nik Collection and find that Photomatix is a bit better than the Nik HDR offering.  You just have to be watchful when processing.  My only advice is that noise can overwhelm an image in Photomatix if you don't watch it.  You can play with the presets, but what I did was watch a couple of Youtube videos and use the sliders to compose the image.  It's much easier to keep the noise under control.  But it sure does work well with LR!

 

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Posted 30 June 2015 - 06:32 PM

Thanks David!  I've used Photoshop (at a somewhat limited level, mostly web and a little photography here and there) for years, but I'm new to Lightroom.  Sounds like I have a minor purchase in my near future :-) 



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Posted 30 June 2015 - 09:31 PM

LR doesn't have the power of PS, but LR is much easier to use.  There's a ton of videos out there and I suggest Anthony Morganti.  He's started a LR6 video series showing some of the changes from 5.

 

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 08:28 PM

Photoshop is the best as it gives you the MOST control. If it does not give you the results you want that is only due to your own lack of knowledge as to how to achieve the effect you want in the program.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 08:41 AM

You might also consider Dynamic Photo HDR:

 

http://www.mediachan...hdri/index.html


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Posted 26 September 2015 - 09:38 PM

I personally love Photomatix as well.  At the moment I'm a little chapped at Adobe.  LR is an amazing product.  I have LR 5.  But Adobe won't update the software to read newer RAW files so my Nikon D7200 won't work properly. They want you to buy the new software or sign up for their lease program..  I have to use another Adobe product...DNG Converter to turn my D7200 RAWs into DNGs so LR can see them.  Adobe won't update or support "lower" versions of LR and I am not at all a fan of the "renting software" route they are going.  Photomatix however, once purchased can be loaded on multiple machines, IE a desk top at home and the laptop you travel with and it gives tremendous results without the hassle of paying a fee every month to use it.



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Posted 27 September 2015 - 10:26 AM

Capture one pro 8. Then export as tiff into whatever version of photoshop you have. Use luminosity masks to blend your exposures.

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 08:17 AM

I've been using Photomatix Pro for real estate shots.  In "fusion natural", the finished product is quite pleasing.

 

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 08:36 AM

That's a great shot David!
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Posted 28 September 2015 - 09:14 AM

Like it a lot, given you captured some detail outside too, which gives a feel for the place... well done.


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Posted 28 September 2015 - 09:39 AM

That's a great shot, David, my wife is actually a realtor, and I'm learning how to do HDR partially just for the reasons that you gave.  Although I'm sure PS can do just about anything, I'm not too excited by the presets they have within the HDR panel.  I'm all for anything that will shorten the workflow, and it looks like Photomatix would be a good choice...thanks all for the replies!  Jim



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Posted 28 September 2015 - 09:47 AM

That's superb David! "Fusion-natural" is the way to go in Photomatix, for natural-looking images. Also, when I am too lazy to use the alternative methods (which I described in another recent post) and simply take 5 or 7 bracketed exposures, I eliminate the ones that are far too dark or completely blown out to contribute anything, so that I don't confuse the software. Again, a great shot!



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Posted 28 September 2015 - 10:47 AM

Thanks for the kind words, gang!  This was 5 shots, 2 stops between each shot and note that the dog never moved. :D    I usually make the first shot with the histogram pretty much smooshed to the left.  Then it's two stops from there.  I take them to LR6 and use the middle image to only make a lens correction.  Then I sync the 5 shots, send them to Photomatix Pro and send it to Fusion Natural and do not touch it in PM Pro.  I let PM Pro create the HDR image and send it back to LR for any corrections from that point.  It really doesn't take long.

 

I just did an outside of a business pretty much the same way except I used 7 shots due to the huge difference in lighting.  I shot it at sunrise, but it has a southern exposure so there were some shadows that had to be accounted for.  I love my 5DIII, but it doesn't do as well with heavy shadows unless you work with it a little (probably should have used the 6D for that one). I actually did use PM Pro's tone mapping but on the lightest setting.  In this case, the building was very colorful and the light tone mapping actually enhanced it.  But...that's an exception.

 

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 02:59 PM

I understand that Photomatix Pro has added a Real Estate option, with greater emphasis on highlight control, but I have never had the need to use it.


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Posted 28 September 2015 - 04:54 PM

I understand that Photomatix Pro has added a Real Estate option, with greater emphasis on highlight control, but I have never had the need to use it.

I need to take a look at that.  Ya' never know!

 

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 07:50 AM

Never tried PS, but that's because I'm very content with my PhotoMatix install... :)



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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:26 AM

And you're right...I tried the real estate option on a restaurant I just shot:

 

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It gives it a bit more contrast.  I like it!

 

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:45 AM

That's good to know! Nicely balanced shot!

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Posted 09 February 2016 - 01:13 PM

I understand that Photomatix Pro has added a Real Estate option, with greater emphasis on highlight control, but I have never had the need to use it.

What version is the Real Estate option on?


And you're right...I tried the real estate option on a restaurant I just shot:

 

ka9PDAS.jpg

 

It gives it a bit more contrast.  I like it!

 

David

Great shot, what setting etc are you using and what version of Photomatix has the Real Estate option?







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