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#1 John W

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:52 AM

A little Blue in flight with a photographer capturing the same bird in the background. I doubt he got much of an image as he was facing the light but I do find this one fun. 1/2500, f6.3, auto ISO 900, 500 f4E + 1.4III, D500. cc Thinking about going back to the D500 and comparing images over the the last couple of months. When I get a sharp one with the D850 I am pleased with the IQ but my keeper rate is way down. 

 

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 10:18 AM

That’s a fun one, for sure.
I wonder why the keeper rate on D850 is lower. Will be interested to hear the results of the D500 comparison .
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Posted 02 January 2018 - 10:21 AM

I like the shot John, and I am quite confident your image is better than that fella's.  I think your shots are always great, and I think I mentioned that your D500 images impressed me more.  You've given both bodies a solid testing, and I'm sure you'll weigh their pros and cons thoroughly.  That fox image is stellar (D850).  The BIF's from the past, I think, were better than than the D850's BIF images.  It may have been the poses or keeper rate, but they were great.  FWIW - those are my thoughts.  It's difficult to plan to shoot one type of target when life brings what it brings; especially from a truck.  I wouldn't dump the D850 though; that fox is tough to beat.  Good luck!


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 11:13 AM

I opened up this page and your shot made me chuckle out loud.. very nice..    For me to capture images in motion with the full details of the D850 I have to have my shutter speed much higher than the D500. Not quite dble, but close to it especially when hand holding.  It does have a full frame so the ISO is a concern, but not as much as it would be on the D500  


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 12:07 PM

Very amusing scene.  

I would be interested in seeing the comparison between the two bodies.  The higher resolution sensor and the D850 can't be making obtaining sharp shots easy.



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Posted 02 January 2018 - 12:15 PM

Thanks for the feedback as always. I have noticed the need to shoot everything at a higher ss with the D850 and I do. I have also noticed it handles higher ISO better than the D500. Realistically I usually don't use an image taken over ISO 2500 with the D500. With the D850 I am comfortable pushing it to ISO 4000 and beyond. The IQ given the same tack sharp capture goes to the D850 but that is the problem I am having. Far too many images that are just not tack sharp. I think my technique is fairly good and I think about it when I am shooting. I have not fine tuned the D850 and I need to but its usually not just a fraction off. It is usually sharp or out of focus. We have been having extreme cold here the last few weeks, close to 0, and I wonder if the cold could be effecting the focus? More experimentation needed. The other factor is focal length and when I need full frame I am glad I have it but more often than not I am cropping to DX anyway so advantage D500 in that case. I used both cameras this morning and shot portraits of the same wild horse and a Woodcock on the ground. Naturally, knowing it was being tested, the D850 was tack sharp. My plan is to shoot with both bodies when I can and give them a fair comparison in the same conditions on the same subjects. I will post some comparisons when I get them processed.


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:54 PM

Vey cool John, always great to see something different!  I think he was photographing you, not the bird :), nice detail on the little Blue!



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Posted 02 January 2018 - 10:02 PM

Thanks Doug



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Posted 03 January 2018 - 08:26 AM

Good one,John.


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 10:34 AM

Just a neat image!  Matt Granger did a comparison of the tracking between the D5 and the D850.  While the D850 is supposed to have the same focusing system as the D5, Matt showed that it doesn't track as well as the D5.  I'm going to put 2 and 2 together and say the same would be found with the D500 (excellent tracking) and the D850.

 

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 01:02 PM

Thanks David. I was actually concerned with the focus on relatively still subjects as well as BIF but I think I may have found the the problem with the way I have my single point focusing set up. I have it set to the PV button on the front of the camera, like my D500 and I assumed it operated the same way with continuous focusing. For some reason the D850 is not using single point continuous AF-C but single point single mode AF-S or focus and recompose. More experimentation needed. 

Just a neat image!  Matt Granger did a comparison of the tracking between the D5 and the D850.  While the D850 is supposed to have the same focusing system as the D5, Matt showed that it doesn't track as well as the D5.  I'm going to put 2 and 2 together and say the same would be found with the D500 (excellent tracking) and the D850.

 

The D850 is the best all 'round camera on the market.  I know some may argue the point, but for a camera that can do it all, it's the best...and that's coming from a Canon shooter. :-)

 

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