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#1 geedee

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Posted 03 July 2017 - 09:20 AM

Focus on the eye...err..yeah right if I could see it/them... (-:

 

Grey sky,  hand held, JPEG   f11  1/640th auto ISO 156 Tamron 150-600 @600  and VC switched off (duh!) last used the lens on a tripod, that`s my excuse.  Applied some PP, a smidge of saturation to bring up the colours of the foliage etc (Elements 10)

 

Any CC appreciated.

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Posted 03 July 2017 - 09:29 AM

Very nice. It looks like a beautiful scene. You might take a bit off the rhs and add it to the lhs. Also it has a bit of a yellow cast on my monitor which is an easy cure. Turn down the yellow saturation a bit and bring up the green just a bit. Well done. tfs. 



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 01:22 PM

John, thanks for taking time to reply.  I`m pleased that you liked the scene, been waiting for months for this horse to stand by the tree... (-:  The crop as is was selected to have the horses head in the cross hairs of  top third and one third in from the left. given the horse was going nowhere as it was scratching it`s rump...(-:   Is this crop better ?

 

 No PP this time other than the crop... The WB was set on FLASH...Double duh! It was a quick grab pic, that is my excuse.

 

As for yellow.. the field is weed strewn buttercups and others that give off a yellow appearance when light filters through their leaves though perhaps when I adjusted saturation it increased the yellow look.... Elements has only one slider for overall saturation as far as I can see..    

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Posted 03 July 2017 - 02:08 PM

lmao, I pictured you in a tree stand bags under your eyes from lack of sleep, malnourished as you have been waiting months for the horse to move into position...  I like the second crop a little better, but I like the post work in the first a lot more... The scene looks like should have a lot of bright colors  :-)   great pic!   



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 02:26 PM

lmao, I pictured you in a tree stand bags under your eyes from lack of sleep, malnourished as you have been waiting months for the horse to move into position...  I like the second crop a little better, but I like the post work in the first a lot more... The scene looks like should have a lot of bright colors  :-)   great pic!   

Yep - I like the color in the first better as well. The second crop looks better but try adding back 1/4 of what you removed from the rhs. The rule of thirds is the starting place but it still has to feel comfortable with more space in the direction the subject is looking. The second feels a bit crowded on the rhs for the large animal. Also in LR and PS one can change the wb at will. Not sure about Elements but I would think there is an adjustment slider. I believe the auto wb flash setting would warm the image which may be the yellowish tone I see. Too warm appears yellowish. You might try cooling the image slightly and see if you like it any better. 



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 03:07 PM

Nah, from my armchair if I squint past the TV I can see the horses in that part of the field, so no discomfort to humans or animals was experienced in the making of this picture....(-:  Just had to move quicker than usual to change lens on my camera from wide to tele...

 

When I compare my pics with those of others they seem to have a marginally less colour... I appreciate that my camera`s software allows me to create my own pre-sets from a wide selection of possibilities, though I have gone for "natural."

 

My updated version of Elements 10 opens a different window of adjustment processes for RAW files which includes WB adjustments for dummies..(-: though not available in the JPEG manipulation window... I post JPEGs though have all the pics in RAW files also.

 

The RAW file looks over exposed compared to the JPEG when first imported to Elements...hmm..?   All part of the learning process for me...



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 07:14 PM

Overall geedee, I like the first one much better...all the way around.  I know the rules, but sometimes the gut knows best, wonderful looking creature, nice work!



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 08:38 PM

Overall geedee, I like the first one much better...all the way around.  I know the rules, but sometimes the gut knows best, wonderful looking creature, nice work!

 

The plants in the foreground do add depth to the picture. 



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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:10 AM

Very nice Geedee.

In Elements 10 there's an option in either Filter or Colour to change the colour temperature of a picture, (I think).

I thought the yellows were a bit strong on the original photo so maybe cooling it down a tad might help ?



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Posted 04 July 2017 - 08:25 AM

Rod, yup, Elements 10 has the TEMPERATURE slider which I did not automatically assume would alter the yellow look as John suggested, I was looking for something more akin to sliders for each colour (R, G and B B) Duh!

 

There are WAY WAY too many variables in PP for me to get a firm grip on and if one adds to that the possible variables across the monitors across those who seek to provide friendly CC....hmm ..?

 

Will try to attach the reduced size RAW file given the original is HUGE in the hope of supplying some more "accurate" data. though that the file had to be put through elements to reduce it`s size and that elements may prefer to then utilise/apply it`s own preferences, I have no idea if the pic will be accepted by the forum`s software or if folk will be able to open it, that is why I post here in JPEG

 

As for the yellow appearance... I put it down to the proliferation Buttercups and docweed the latter`s leaves turn yellow as it ages, as for the over exposure re the RAW (NEF) file I mentioned I put that down to single point focus on the dark area of the horse`s face/eye and thus the auto ISO used that as a datum for it`s selection...?  Seems the  in-camera JPEG processes may not be quite as closely defined by the same criteria when creating their interpretation of that which is presented to them....? Of course I could be entirely on the wrong track.

 

As before and in general, other folks images ever seem to be more colourful than mine, whether that is because I have chosen "natural" as an in-camera setting and others pics have been processed with the use of either in-camera, iPhone or whatever pre-sets,  or indeed later in whatever PP processes they apply.... I have not a clue... It is all just a learning process for me.. Thanks guys.

 

Sorry, the reduced size Raw file creates an error message from the forum "You aren`t permitted to upload this kind of file."     



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Posted 06 July 2017 - 12:41 AM

Beautiful color and composition!  I would take out the fence though. 


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Posted 06 July 2017 - 02:30 AM

Thanks Grimlock, much appreciated. "Take out the fence".... if only you knew how many twists and turns I have taken to try to adjust this image in terms of it`s size and post it in RAW, let alone apply PP skills I do not possess....!!!!!    (-:

 

I post JPEG here as it seems I can not reduce the size of RAW files in Elements 10,   though I had a go in Nikon View NX2 , however,  once reduced in dimension in the CONVERT FILES part of that programme  Nikon`s RAW file designation of NEF has then to be further converted to a JPEG or to a TIFF in either 8 or 16 bit  and in seeking to post other than JPEG I selected TIFF 16 bit  but then after all that confusion and frustration.... when trying to attach the under 3MEG file to this thread, the forums software knocked it back.. not permitted... DUH!!!! 






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