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#1 MrWild

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 06:15 PM

https://www.bhphotov..._f_4_dg_os.html  Sigma

 

 

https://www.bhphotov...500mm_f_4e.html  Nikon

 

 

I cannot find many reviews on this Lens. Has anyone used or seen proper review of the lens. How does it compare tot he Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 500mm f/4E FL ED VR Lens?  The Sigma is close to my price range after selling the GH5.. the Nikon would have to wait till next year and then I think I would just get the 600mm. 

 

 

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 01:43 AM

Were I considering expansion or upgrade in kit I would look CAREFULY at the kit that the guys here who post spectacular images in whatever genre(s) you are interested in, Steve (Jeste photography) was ever the Nikon user who`s wildlife images seemed varied and superb quality  From a poor memory I think he used a 300mm 2.8 with teleconverter , perhaps if you look back in the wildlife and Nikon archive you may find some of Steves images and some his comments on his kit choices that might assist you in your assessment process. 



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Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:28 AM

I'd never buy a Sigma lens again


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:41 AM

There are a few reviews of the Sigma on youtube.

Your other option is a 2nd hand Nikon 500 from a good supplier.  Should be cheaper than the Sigma.



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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:47 AM

Link to the mentioned review:

 

http://www.naturalar...igma_nikon.html



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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:23 PM

I'd never buy a Sigma lens again

 

But, we need to know why to make a valued judgement. :)

 

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:54 PM

Bob, it's been well documented on here.

I bought a Sigma 150-600 Sport and it was absolutely shocking how soft it was. I stuck with it for 3 months, sent it back to Sigma and basically was told 'there's nothing wrong with it, what do you expect in a £1200 zoom lens...' Well, to be sharp for one.

I demanded my money back and bought a Canon 100-400 mk2 which was as sharp as a tack.

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:38 PM

Bob, I good mate of mine has a brand new 150-600mm Sigma sport and he is using it on a 5D Mk II and a 7D MK II. He gets sharper shots using his Canon 400mm f5.6 L (non IS) and a Canon 1.4 TC MK III. The 400mm and TC works out a lot cheaper and is a lot lighter to carry. He is regretting buying the Sigma and is talking about selling it to buy Canon glass, it says it all to me.

 

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:55 PM

thank you all for the input.  I do believe in you get what you pay for...  this seems to hold true here too!   looks like It will wait till next year.   :-) 



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Posted 23 June 2017 - 06:03 AM

I bought my Tamron 150-600 with zero expectations that it might match the sharpness of lenses (and or lens/extender combos) which Nikon provide to allow me to get to 600mm.. Sure there is ever likely to be a premium attached to buying into branding and cash a plenty available for those deemed to be personalities in the field to promote this as that... I think it is known as marketing/advertising (?) as to the value of assessment of quality of anything resultant on THAT process...hmm..? 

 

Boy was I pleased when the third party lens manufacturers came out with their new range of lenses providing the opportunity to assess how the use of a 600mm lens might widen my photographic abilities and at a price that seemed reasonable compared to any Nikon (substitute Cannon where applicable) equivalent. That my "third party" 150-600 lens also has the zoom function, provides me further ability to assess the advantages that zoom can provide when using MUCH longer focal lengths.

 

I have no great photographic skills and the Tamron sure is not holding ME back. I do have some items of kit that were/ may be thought of as "iconic" but the quality of my pics do not reflect that status. Like one wise man stated, "everything is relative"  (-: 

 

I hope that your kit choices work out well for you.


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Posted 24 June 2017 - 10:31 AM

Were I considering expansion or upgrade in kit I would look CAREFULY at the kit that the guys here who post spectacular images in whatever genre(s) you are interested in, Steve (Jeste photography) was ever the Nikon user who`s wildlife images seemed varied and superb quality  From a poor memory I think he used a 300mm 2.8 with teleconverter , perhaps if you look back in the wildlife and Nikon archive you may find some of Steves images and some his comments on his kit choices that might assist you in your assessment process. 

I am fairly sure Steve had the 400 f2.8E and Steve was the one who kept telling me "your equipment matters".

 

I had the Sigma 150-600C and used it with my 7DII. After viewing others images with high IQ and finding the IQ of my own images lacking I sold everything and bought my Nikon D500 with the 200-500 5.6. It was an improvement but still lacked the IQ I was after. I purchased a Nikon refurbished 500 f4E with a 1 year Nikon warranty from Henry's Camera for about $7000 and have never regretted it. The primes give you an IQ and pop that the less expensive telephoto lenses are not capable of. It really comes down to what you are trying to achieve. For the vast majority of users the less expensive telephotos are probably a better choice. They you give more range, are light weight, smaller, easy to pack and travel with. They take take very good pictures and represent excellent value. If you are trying to get the IQ that you see name brand wildlife photographer's achieve you need a prime. fyi -the new Nikon f2.8E's and f4E's are smaller and considerably lighter than the older model f2.8G and f 4g they replaced. 

 

I can't give you any direct info on the Sigma 500 f4 except that after using the 150-600C and the Nikon 200-500 5.6 I think the Nikon is a better quality lens. One other thing to think about is resale value. My guess is that a genuine Nikon lens will hold its value longer than the Sigma. 

 

 

rik.bonnet :

" Link to the mentioned review:

http://www.naturalar...igma_nikon.html "

 

Really interesting review and worth reading


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Posted 26 June 2017 - 06:09 AM

I am fairly sure Steve had the 400 f2.8E and Steve was the one who kept telling me "your equipment matters".

 

I had the Sigma 150-600C and used it with my 7DII. After viewing others images with high IQ and finding the IQ of my own images lacking I sold everything and bought my Nikon D500 with the 200-500 5.6. It was an improvement but still lacked the IQ I was after. I purchased a Nikon refurbished 500 f4E with a 1 year Nikon warranty from Henry's Camera for about $7000 and have never regretted it. The primes give you an IQ and pop that the less expensive telephoto lenses are not capable of. It really comes down to what you are trying to achieve. For the vast majority of users the less expensive telephotos are probably a better choice. They you give more range, are light weight, smaller, easy to pack and travel with. They take take very good pictures and represent excellent value. If you are trying to get the IQ that you see name brand wildlife photographer's achieve you need a prime. fyi -the new Nikon f2.8E's and f4E's are smaller and considerably lighter than the older model f2.8G and f 4g they replaced. 

 

I can't give you any direct info on the Sigma 500 f4 except that after using the 150-600C and the Nikon 200-500 5.6 I think the Nikon is a better quality lens. One other thing to think about is resale value. My guess is that a genuine Nikon lens will hold its value longer than the Sigma. 

 

 

rik.bonnet :

" Link to the mentioned review:

http://www.naturalar...igma_nikon.html "

 

Really interesting review and worth reading

 

Nikon holds value waaaaay better.. My thought process now is to get the 400 f/2.8 and use 1.4 and 2.0 converters.  I tried on the 200-500 and does not matter the light when your at f/11.76    even  with the 2.0 converter you would be 2.8 x 1.5 x 2.0 = 8.4   and at 1200mm.    Just my current thought.  I'm a baller on a budget  :D







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