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#1 Powerdook

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:54 PM

Hey all. :)

 

Before i start, this is NOT about the sensor-file size- FPS and so on. I only tried it for a few minutes in a shop and can't say anything about that, what i can say something about the weight-size and price. (what Tony talks about too)

 

First off. I'm almost 7 feet tall and about 270 pounds. I currently use a Canon 1Dx (mrk 1) and the grip on it is actually a bit to small for me. (See pic) For me this is the best solution. I HATE using "normal" size DSLR's because they are just too small. I have a 70D and i feel like i'm about to drop it every time i hold it. The smaller cameras from any manufacture is just not possible for me to use.

 

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Price: Let's say you're starting from scratch and need a body plus a 70-200 lens (and yes you do need a grip if you shoot vertically a lot. and you do that in sport)

 

Canon 1Dx mrk ll 49.995,- dkk

Canon 70-200 ll 16.995,- dkk

Total: 66.990,- dkk

 

Sony a9 40.995,- dkk

Sony 70-200 (E) 22.995,- dkk

Sony grip + battery 2.995,- + 700,- dkk

Total: 67.685,- dkk

 

So here in Denmark it's the same and even if you leave the grip out, it's so close it almost doesn't matter.

 

Weight: Again. I'm a big dude so it's not a problem for me (but i am getting older) If you have the grip for the Sony you save about 400 g.

 

I heard T&C talk about the amount of shots you can get from the a9 in their previous video and good for that. Sony was WAY of on previous cameras with FPS on one battery. Without anything mechanical moving it should be able to do well. I have the same battery's i got with that camera. I have taken good care of them and calibrated them when the charger told me to. They were bought on May 10 2013 and both still kick ass ;)

 

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Noise: Yeah.... But at least my Canon is not as loud as a Nikon :P

 

Video: Don't use it, don't care ;) 

 

I know i sound like a fanboy and i guess i am. Mostly because i can't afford to switch brans, but also because the 1Dx has been with me through mud, rain, frost and tropical heat and just kept shooting. I wanna see how well the a9 does in winter.

 

I want to thank Tony for always making sure he tries to cover everything in video, even though it's impossible to do and this is not a bashing of him or the video. Just wanted to point out a few things from my part of the world and my POV.


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:52 PM

I'm not your size, but I have the same sensation when holding the "small" cameras.  I have a 5DIII with a grip on it, so it's close to your 1Dx.  With the grip off, it gets lost for the lack of a better term.  The size of my camera is very comfortable for me. 

 

Because of my size prejudice, the diminutive ML cameras are non starters for me.  Fact is, if I had the dinars, I'd be shooting with a Pentax 645Z.  Love medium format, but my wallet doesn't like the price of the body and purpose built lenses.  I do little action shooting, so I don't need the speed.  But I'd sure like to have that big sensor! :-)

 

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:23 AM

I'm not your size, but I have the same sensation when holding the "small" cameras.  I have a 5DIII with a grip on it, so it's close to your 1Dx.  With the grip off, it gets lost for the lack of a better term.  The size of my camera is very comfortable for me. 

 

Because of my size prejudice, the diminutive ML cameras are non starters for me.  Fact is, if I had the dinars, I'd be shooting with a Pentax 645Z.  Love medium format, but my wallet doesn't like the price of the body and purpose built lenses.  I do little action shooting, so I don't need the speed.  But I'd sure like to have that big sensor! :-)

 

David

 

Oh i would love a Pentax or the new FUJI gfx 50s but that will have to wait. I need a newer censor and i'm looking at the new 6D ll But it'll mostly be used on a tripod so i should survive. ;)



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Posted 20 June 2017 - 04:27 PM

Thanks Powerdook.

(Didn't I see you in Grand Theft Auto ?)  B)

Having just hauled a D750 and a Tamron 150-600 up a 750 mtr hill in the hot sun, I'd pay a lot for a lightweight full frame.


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Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:47 AM

Thanks Powerdook.

(Didn't I see you in Grand Theft Auto ?)  B)

Having just hauled a D750 and a Tamron 150-600 up a 750 mtr hill in the hot sun, I'd pay a lot for a lightweight full frame.

Just get a shorter lens. :P But i get ya. It's a heavy one to carry.

 

As far as i remember i wasn't in GTA, but i could have been high that day. (Bad phun) :rolleyes:



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:05 PM

Mehehehe!

That A9 has a lot of compelling features.



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:24 PM

Crap !  I completely f***ed that up!

What I meant to say was

" was that you in The Fast And The Furious.....

Jeez, I am having a bad game....



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Posted 23 June 2017 - 08:10 AM

I have a similar issue as well. I have large hands which means I like large chunky grips on my cameras. Pretty much all mirrorless cameras and even some small DSLRs (I'm looking at you Nikon) are not comfortable for me to hold. It's probably the main reason I chose Canon all those years ago was for the ergonomics (My 7D fits perfectly). I actually went down to the local electronics store and played with the cameras they had on display. What I learned from that was that the Canon 80D, 77D, and the Nikon D750 fit my hand very well. The Canon Rebels were ok but my pinky finger was hanging in the breeze. The Sony A7, 6300, Nikon 5500, and even the Nikon D7500 were not comfortable to hold at all. Especially with the D7500 having that function button in the space between the grip and the lens mount that I was constantly hitting.

Another question I have is how is the balance of using long Telephoto lenses on bodies that are so light? The A9 weighs just about 1.5lbs where as my 7D is over 3lbs. Wouldn't that get uncomfortable?

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 08:24 AM

I have a similar issue as well. I have large hands which means I like large chunky grips on my cameras. Pretty much all mirrorless cameras and even some small DSLRs (I'm looking at you Nikon) are not comfortable for me to hold. It's probably the main reason I chose Canon all those years ago was for the ergonomics (My 7D fits perfectly). I actually went down to the local electronics store and played with the cameras they had on display. What I learned from that was that the Canon 80D, 77D, and the Nikon D750 fit my hand very well. The Canon Rebels were ok but my pinky finger was hanging in the breeze. The Sony A7, 6300, Nikon 5500, and even the Nikon D7500 were not comfortable to hold at all. Especially with the D7500 having that function button in the space between the grip and the lens mount that I was constantly hitting.

Another question I have is how is the balance of using long Telephoto lenses on bodies that are so light? The A9 weighs just about 1.5lbs where as my 7D is over 3lbs. Wouldn't that get uncomfortable?

You're correct in pointing out the balance issue.  Even with the Canon 70-200 f2.8II and its substantial size, it balances nicely with my 5DIII.

 

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Posted 24 June 2017 - 05:35 PM

My 2.5 cents worth,
also big hands here and small bodies are a pain, first thing I normally do is attach a battery grip to make them (my 5 & 7d's) bigger.
then add an L-bracket on top of that. I find it makes them easier to handle.

Also there come the lenses you fit them on, my 120-300 f/2.8 I use often weighs in at 3,390g (7.4 pounds) and has a 105mm intake.
it would look quite foolish tacked on a tiny body (after all aesthetics is everything in photography!) especially if you add in a teleconverter.

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