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#1 MrWild

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 09:35 PM

I cant seem to get the detail in the bird and get rid of the noise. I used the brush tool to de-sharpen the background which made the bird look more detail without adding any, but the point where the bird and the background met was funky. can someone give me a path to go down, a tool, or technique?  besides take a better picture  :P

 

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1/800 sec at f/5.6 500mm ISO 500 +2/3 EV

 

This last pic I decreased the crop. I think detail looks better, but Cloning needs to be fixed 

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:11 PM

Sometimes what we want and the situation, are too far apart.  This is a challenging shot, one that if I had taken...saw the result...would have just dumped it in the trash.  That's somewhere btw a 5 and 10 stop difference (your subject vs the bright background).  You need to know when it just ain't gonna work.  I think you are learning ;).  I do admire your attempt, I've been there my friend.


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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:25 PM

Sometimes what we want and the situation, are too far apart.  This is a challenging shot, one that if I had taken...saw the result...would have just dumped it in the trash.  That's somewhere btw a 5 and 10 stop difference (your subject vs the bright background).  You need to know when it just ain't gonna work.  I think you are learning ;).  I do admire your attempt, I've been there my friend.

 

Thank you, I am trying to learn as fast as I can. I figure editing more challenging shots would be a good way to learn tricks.  I am fairly happy with branch removal though :-)  although I did just notice a piece of the branch is still there and if you look at second pic you can see discoloration where the splice was, damn back to the photoshop 



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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:28 PM

"Sometimes what we want and the situation, are too far apart.  This is a challenging shot, one that if I had taken...saw the result...would have just dumped it in the trash.  That's somewhere btw a 5 and 10 stop difference (your subject vs the bright background).  You need to know when it just ain't gonna work.  I think you are learning  ;).  I do admire your attempt, I've been there my friend."

 

Good advice - Increasing the exposure in pp and cropping in pp increase existing noise in the image exponentially. I keep reading online that you don't need to worry about getting the exposure right in the camera because you can adjust in post but that is not my experience. You can lower in post but raising exposure is very unforgiving. One can crop to some extent if the image is well exposed with no noise but cropping an image that is already noisy is like increasing the noise slider in LR. 


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Posted 09 June 2017 - 08:03 AM

It took a while to register with me too. (And I'm still all over the place).

As Tony says, even taking a single step closer to the subject will improve the quality of the picture



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 08:12 AM

Mother Nature is cruel at times; perfect subject, lousy light.  Perfect light?  All the subjects have left the building.  Bad light, lotsa' subjects AND they're a mile away.  You can only stretch pixels so far and I'm a firm believer that Mother Nature knows this.  :lol: An acquaintance of mine shoots with a 1Dx, an 800 mm f5.6L AND a 1.4X multiplier.  And even he has problems, especially if the bird gets too close.  ;)

 

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'When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane, you always have enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash.'

 


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Posted 09 June 2017 - 06:06 PM

We have to remember that the camera doesn't always (if ever :D) see what we do or what we want the camera to remember (as our intended image).  PP can pull things together, that's the greatness about it, I guess for me...it depends on how much time I want to spend working on it :wacko:.







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