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#1 oldguyrich

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 12:13 AM

I have a D5500. Can anyone tell me the camera settings  you would use in the picture setting menu to produce nicely sharpened photos?  this photo was shot at 1000 shutter  speed, bright sun, f/8, ISOAttached File  DSC_0277-001.JPG   297.39KB   0 downloadsAttached File  DSC_0284-002.JPG   85.23KB   0 downloads 800. How do they look as they are?  i notice the term "CC4" is used frequently on this site, so go right ahead. Thanks for the help

PS. have no idea why phots are this small pixel-wise.. that's how they uploaded......



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Posted 08 May 2017 - 02:52 AM

They look pretty good to me, Rich.

The second one looks spot-on.

In the first one the highlights are possibly a tiny bit blown.

I've never photographed humming birds so others will advise you on any special techniques, but for stationery birds you might be able to drop your shutter speed and so bring down the ISO, thus reducing sensor noise.

Shoot RAW.

Cropping will exaggerate and background noise so the less noise in the image to begin with, the better.

I use software sharpening and de-noising for most of my efforts - LR and or PS.  Other softwares are available.

WRT the size of your pictures. the thumbnail is one thing, but when the image opens it fills my screen.

Most people will export their photos to .jpeg and size them to be around 3000px along the long edge.

Some contributors publish a link to their flickr account where the photos are much bigger so maybe that's what you mean ?


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Posted 09 May 2017 - 08:45 AM

The whites around the throat in the first one seem a tad blown out which it seems you improved upon in your second pic, well done... I have yet to capture a decent  image of a humming bird..



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Posted 12 May 2017 - 11:41 PM

under shooting menu screen, set picture control,standard,  what numbers or settings do any of you use for sharpening,clarity, etc?



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Posted 14 May 2017 - 12:10 PM

Hi Rich.

Good question, but I don't have an answer.

I have never changed any of the settings in there (D750), but now you've whetted my interest I'm off to Google to see what others think.

FYI my camera setting is set to SD with sharpening=+2 and clarity=+1. All the other settings are set to zero


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Posted 14 May 2017 - 02:35 PM

As a follow up to the Picture Control menu settings, according to Davis Busch, an author on Nikon cameras, the picture control menu lets the user choose from a collection of settings to give certain photographic effects - mainly simulation of various film stock effects such as Kodacrome, Velvia, Fujifilm etc.


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Posted 14 May 2017 - 03:48 PM


"FYI my camera setting is set to SD with sharpening=+2 and clarity=+1. All the other settings are set to zero"

 

Thanks so much. that was the info i was needing.



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Posted 14 May 2017 - 04:15 PM

Oh. Good. :)

I reckon those settings are analogous to the various sliders in Lightroom or other PP software.  I don't think they improve the actual image that's captured by the sensor.

I think its the physical variables that count - lens quality, camera shake, filling the frame, shutter speed  and so on.

And then there's atmospheric conditions (!) for good measure.

Good luck.



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Posted 14 May 2017 - 08:29 PM

i also have a canon t3i, and the adjustments will change my jpeg as i see it....especially the sharpness. +5 sharp and contrast +2 was recommended as the best to set it on. helped on the canon, so figured there must be a suggested setting on the nikon...



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 03:26 AM

Ah.  Jpegs let do a lot of in-camera processing.

I shoot RAW and do the processing myself



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 04:47 AM

Rod.. interested to know if you think the in-camera "processing" of an image in JPEG form is to provide other than as true a representation of light and form as presented to the camera as may be within it`s JPEG capabilities... or if there is some other priority...?

 

In choosing to process in RAW, are you seeking to express yourself further artistically, or trying to improve on the camera`s ability to capture that which it was presented it with at the time you pressed the shutter.

 

There so very many options for in-camera processing in my camera providing so many ways adjusting interpretation on how I might wish my camera to capture and present my vision of reality...... that I am oft times left confused....even before I sit at my computer and consider how I might add or subtract any of the many more possibilities available ..... and regularly ending up in disappointment  ....hmm.

 

Just thinking in type.. 



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 06:58 AM

Jpegs are fine and produce great quality photos, but .jpeg format is fundamentally "a lossy compression" format.

I use RAW in spite of the much larger file sizes because its "lossless" and has a superior dynamic range.  You get the maximum amount of data with RAW, but that's a BIG file on a 36MP camera !

There are quite a few pictures I've posted that simply would not have turned out if I'd shot .jpeg.

Some woefully underexposed pics I've taken have been essentially black squares but I was able to pull an acceptable picture out in software.



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 09:15 AM

Thanks for taking the time to explain, interesting. My D800 is set up to capture JPEGs in the largest size and highest quality, and RAW file at each press of the shutter button. I post JPEGS here generally reduced to 800 pixels on the long edge. I tend to Store the raw files of any pics I consider worthy of keeping in the hope that someday I will get round to subjecting them to PP in a way that might make them more interesting.. 



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 10:04 AM

Seems a good work flow.

I think you can get away with posting larger .jpegs if you wanted.  Try 3000px along the long edge






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