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#1 akaBlender

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 10:52 AM

Hello Stunners,

 

A few years back I bought a used Canon 550D for a little video project. Since owning the camera I have completely fallen in love with still photography.

The 550D came with a Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 XR Di 2 and a Canon 50mm f1.8. I live on the coast in South Wales in the UK and have decided I need a long lens so i can get some shots of surfers.

I'm struggling to find a decent long lens EF-S. Should I also look at non crop lenses? I'm a little confused as Tony says to really only use crop lenses on crop bodies for best results.

Do I invest in full frame lenses now in case I move up to full frame in the future? Or do I look for crop lenses as thats what i'm using at the moment?

I don't foresee a move to FF in the near future as my next purchase body-wise will be the 80D as most of my work is video based.

Is it really a bad idea to use FF lenses on crop bodies? My Nifty 50 is a FF lens and the results I get are amazing.

 

Apologies if this has been answered before.

 

Thank you.

 

Neil (aka Blender).



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Posted 12 February 2017 - 11:10 AM

I am NO expert, though FF may not be an obvious upgrade for you as it may just be possible that for sports the D500 seems to be the body of choice for many..?



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Posted 12 February 2017 - 11:46 AM

Neil, welcome to the forum, My advice is invest in glass and seeing that you a Canon user my advice would be buy the best Canon fit lenses you can afford that meet your needs.

 

If you can afford "L" lenses then buy them as the image quality surpasses the cheaper lenses, also the build quality is better than the cheaper counterparts ie waterproofing and dustproofing. 

 

 

You seem a little confused about the different lenses ie EFS (crop) and EF (full frame) To put it basically , EFS lenses will work solely on APSC or "crop cameras" ie 7D MK II they will not work/fit on full frame cameras ie 1 DX MK II, but EF lenses will work perfectly on crop body cameras or full frame bodies.

 

Take no notice of "Tony" about only using crop lenses on crop bodies, I disagree with him on this one.

 

I get stunning results using my EF mount 100-400 mm on my 7D MK II body and because of the sensor size the 100-400 mm has an effective field of view as a 160- 640 mm lens.

 

 

I hope this helps?

 

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 01:56 PM

Neil, welcome to the forum, My advice is invest in glass and seeing that you a Canon user my advice would be buy the best Canon fit lenses you can afford that meet your needs.

 

If you can afford "L" lenses then buy them as the image quality surpasses the cheaper lenses, also the build quality is better than the cheaper counterparts ie waterproofing and dustproofing. 

 

 

You seem a little confused about the different lenses ie EFS (crop) and EF (full frame) To put it basically , EFS lenses will work solely on APSC or "crop cameras" ie 7D MK II they will not work/fit on full frame cameras ie 1 DX MK II, but EF lenses will work perfectly on crop body cameras or full frame bodies.

 

Take no notice of "Tony" about only using crop lenses on crop bodies, I disagree with him on this one.

 

I get stunning results using my EF mount 100-400 mm on my 7D MK II body and because of the sensor size the 100-400 mm has an effective field of view as a 160- 640 mm lens.

 

 

I hope this helps?

 

Chimpy

Thank you for your reply.



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 01:04 AM

Many efs lenses are just as sharp as FF L lenses. As a matter of fact the EFS 55-250 STM is actually more sharp than any of Canon's 70-300s and that includes the mark II AND the 70-300L. What you pay for in L class lenses is fast AND sharp. This rarely occurs in the EFS line and when it does it usually cost like an L such as the canon 17-55 2.8. Consider your need. If you are serious about portraits then invest in FF lenses and a future FF body. For landscapes APSC is just as good contrary to popular belief. This is so because APSC provides greater DOF at the same aperture. FF must be stopped further to achieve the same DOF. Any FF ISO advantage is lost after having to stop down more. This is even more complicated when fast lenses are envolved. Many will invest in fast wide lenses for landscapes but landcapes are not shot with wide apertures they are shot at f11 or so. Expensive fast lenses suffer from defraction much eailer than slower lenses. For example the sharpest point on many L lenses is 4 or 5.6 but on many efs lenses it's f8 and f11 which is ideal for landscapes. If you shoot wildlife APSC is king. FF is only better if you can get twice as close. Not even FF with a TC can match APSC of the same approximate resolution and lens shot without a TC.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 12:20 PM

Longest the ef-s lenses go to seems to be around the 250mm to 300mm mark, 

if you are after more reach like 400mm+ you need to go the EF lenses.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 09:55 AM

I won't get into the APS-C vs FF debate apart to say that I started with APS-C, then upgraded to FF and have never looked back.

As for your lens question: based on your desire to get a longer focal length, I would recommend three lenses based on price: if money is no object, go for the EF 100-400 Mk II, it is a fantastic lens that worked great even on my old T3i.

If you have a decent budget, go for the EF 400 f/5.6, its one of the cheapest ways to get a high quality 400mm lens.

And if you have to keep a tight budget, go with the 55-250 STM. I had the non STM version, which was okay, but image quality wise was no better than the kit lens. I'm fairly sure they improved the IQ on the STM version.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:47 AM

I agree with TrailEx's lens recommendations (but I will say that I still use APS-C and am happy staying with it).

 

I also agree with what Chimpy says - "Take no notice of "Tony" about only using crop lenses on crop bodies, I disagree with him on this one." I do think that one interesting aspect of this however, is comparing say a very popular lens like the Tamron 70-300 f4-5.6 Di VC USD to the Canon 55-250 STM lens. I have both. The Tamron can be used on a FF camera, while the 55-250 is APS-C only. The difference in size is pretty surprising, so for an APS-C user, you aren't getting much from the much larger size of the Tamron. Often a larger lens like that will be faster, or perhaps hold onto the larger apertures longer as you zoom in. But this is not the case with the Tamron vs the Canon. Both give the same apertures at each focal length. Of course, the Tamron goes out to 300, but this is not enough to give it much of an edge, IMHO. I seldom use the Tamron now that I have the 55-250.


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Posted 28 February 2017 - 02:20 PM

Thank you so much for your responses. I'm still undecided but you have all cleared a lot of things up for me.

Its so easy to overthink and fry your brain comparing specs online.

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